Sunday, June 9, 2013

June 22/23

There are several important events lining up on June 22/23 (a weekend). This is likely to be a major inflection point.

Equities

Mentioned here are the following events:

6/22/13: Nasdaq Ceres 36; Geocentric Ceres enters Leo
6/23/13: S&P Geocentric Jupiter 36°; Full Moon

This chart shows heliocentric Ceres at the Nasdaq's 36° harmonic.
6/22/2013: Nasdaq Heliocentric Ceres 36° Cycle
Ceres entering Leo (which occurs on the 22nd) can be seen in the next chart, which shows geocentric Jupiter at the S&P's 36° harmonic on the 23rd and a Full Moon.
6/23/2013: S&P Geocentric Jupiter 36° Cycle; Full Moon


 Gold/Silver

We saw a large drop in the metals on the 7th, which was the date Neptune turned retrograde trine Saturn and Venus (shown here). Today (June 9), the Moon's nodes cross silver's 36°/72° harmonics. The Moon's nodes will cross gold's major harmonics on June 22. Gold and silver are closely tied so this will probably affect silver as well.
6/22/2013: Moon's Nodes at Gold's 36°/72° Harmonics

Dollar

The dollar's harmonics are very close to gold's, so it is very sensitive to Neptune as well, and Neptune turning retrograde likely resulted in a significant turn for the dollar on the 7th. On June 23, heliocentric Uranus will be at the dollar's 72° harmonic, which should result in another major turn.
6/23/2013: Heliocentric Uranus at the Dollar's 72° Harmonic

Disaster?

Disasters are often associated with major market turns. Reader GannMan points out that the June 23 Full Moon is also a Supermoon, which means that it is at its closest approach to Earth in its elliptical orbit. Supermoons are often correlated with disasters, and there is indeed a potentially dangerous disaster setup at this time.
6/23/2013: Neptune-Saturn-Jupiter/Sun Trine; Full Moon

Jupiter and the Sun are directly opposite the Moon and Galactic Center, and forming a trine with Neptune and Saturn. This total combination makes a kite shape, a dangerous configuration. The involvement of the Galactic Center at the high point of the kite is especially dangerous, as Susan Seymour Hedke's work shows. The GC's position correlates to 90° West on Earth, and the Sun and Jupiter are near 90° East, so although location prediction is very difficult, there is a good chance that if a disaster occurs at this time it will involve 90° East or West. (See also here.) The Sun, Neptune and Saturn are all in water signs, so that may give us a clue as to the nature of the disaster.

See also this post for a similar disaster warning beginning in late July.

213 comments:

  1. Hi Platy.

    From this post I understand that until 20/22 June 2013 the stocks will likely trend higher or sideways to up?
    If 22 June is a turning point the period until then should be positive for stocks and negative after that (due to a potential natural/social/military disaster)?

    Thank you,
    V.

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    1. Or is it just the opposite of my understanding of the charts exposed (down until 22 June / up after that date)?

      Thank you,

      V.

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    2. At this time I'm thinking it will be a low for equities. It should become clearer as we get closer.

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    3. ok, thank you Ms.Platy.
      V.

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  2. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge
    Bradley turning point is 6/22/13
    Sunday 6/23/13 it is Full moon and markets are usually bullish through the full moon
    and if I have correctly understood we can go lower from today until the 22/23/24 June 2013
    Thank you





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    1. I think Full Moons tend to be lows.

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  3. Hi Platy,
    My mistake
    Thank you for your answer
    There is a lot to learn from you.

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  4. I'm thinking that we are seeing an ABC correction, not a 5 wave correction. Wave B finishing now, then roughly 2 weeks for C (similar to A) puts us close to the 22nd/23rd.

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    1. Tomorrow (June 11) is a Nasdaq Mars 36° cycle - pretty reliable medium term CIT indicator.

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  5. I think the dollar will go down into the 23rd.

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    1. Good call on the dollar Platy. Do you have a price floor in mind on the dollar for the potential bottom on or around June 23? Also, I don't know if Jay ever applied his fantastic analysis to the dollar on this site; if he did, would you happen to have a link to that please? Thanks tons for your tireless efforts; you are making a positive difference to folks like me.

      JB

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    2. I'm not that good with price, but there is trend channel (Gann line) support currently at 80.3 and rising.

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    3. I haven't analyzed the US Dollar. The challenge for me is that I don't have historical daily data going back to the 70s. The Federal Reserve used to publish data for the Dollar Index. But then they changed how the index was computed.

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    4. Thank you very much Platy & Jay for the quick response. Judging by the large swings in currencies on a daily basis nowadays, it appears that there is a combination of serious volatility and manipulation happening, especially in the Euro & Yen vs. the dollar. I would have expected the dollar to be firming up as the US markets correct, but logic and the markets are like opposite twins :)

      JB

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    5. Right - dollar has been moving with equities and against gold. Part of the reason why I'm bullish gold right now.

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    6. This is not an astro analysis of the US Dollar Index but is instead a technical read of that market. If you look at the chart here, you will notice that the Bollinger Bands and the 200-week exponential moving average suggest support around 80. I think that is where we are headed in the next few weeks.

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    7. Thanks tons Jay.

      JB

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  6. does anyone have a link to heliocentric Ceres ephemeris

    Thanks,

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    1. You can use http://www.astro.com/swisseph/swetest.htm to generate a heliocentric longitudes for any planet/planetoid for any date range.

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  7. one more day until Jay's 1499 call on spx ...still curious if it will occur :)

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  8. Thanks, platy, is likely the correction would be extended until end of june or begining july, as the dates you know?

    Apanalis

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  9. Gold has been trading inversely to equities, so if I've got this right, gold should rise into June 22.

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    1. Gold has a Uranus 72° cycle on Aug 19, very close to the Aug 17 Jupiter-Mars conjunction which I think will be a major high for equities. If it plays out this way (and assuming the inverse correlation continues), then Aug 19 will likely be a major low for gold.

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    2. Platy, I've been comparing GDX miners chart to AAPL chart and since mid-Sep 2012 to now the pattern is very similar. So far AAPL appears to be trading about 3 weeks ahead of GDX but pattern is mirroring. Both had mid-Sep peaks, mid-Apr crash low, and formation of inverse head and shoulders bottom. Based on AAPL chart, GDX is presently forming the right shoulder and it should take 10 more trading days to hit the HnS neckline, where it technically "fails" and bounces off it. 10 trading days from today is Monday, Jun 24.

      The thing that is throwing me off and I need to think it over and analyze some more in the near future, is that my initial assumption is to expect a Jun 21/24 top in equities and then a turn towards a very heavy decline. But that would be inconsistent with also expecting gold/miners to decline on Jun 24 too, considering the inverse relationship. Also, I read somewhere on another blog that their expectations was for a strong bullish period in equities for Jun 23-28 which also runs contrary to my initial assumptions.

      So conclusion thus far is Jun 24 will likely be a major turning point for BOTH precious metals and equities. But at this point it might be premature to determine both asset class' direction up or down until we get closer towards that date.

      Your thoughts and from others would be very welcome.

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    3. Great observation with that correlation Awakening!

      I like that you have identified the same major turn date that I did. I believe it will be a low for equities and a high for metals. The Nasdaq Mars cycle today should send equities down. Metals have a turn date today too. GDX is very close to a gap fill.

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    4. Looking at gold could be around 21st Jun .
      11/23/12 + 105 CD = 3/8 low
      + 210 = 6/21
      8/15/12 Low + 155 =1/17 high
      + 310 = 6/21
      6/21/10 high = 3yr cycle =1096
      1096/1.0905 = 1005
      6/21/10 + 1005 = 3/22/13 ( high 3/21 )

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  10. Hello Jay:

    I am not sure if you look at currencies, but if you do, could you please post a chart of the US Dollar and where you think its headed for the remainder of this year and next?

    Thanks tons for all that you do for us.

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  11. I have uploaded a weekly chart on the S&P and Mars square and trine inverse lines. Historically, prices react at these points. Currently, the S&P sits inside the 2 Mars lines.

    You will notice the next line lower is close to 1500. The chart is available at:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/97307769@N06/

    If requested I will compile a daily chart.

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    1. Thanks Chris. HM2535

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    2. Hi all I see similar patterns s&p 500, 1963 to 1972 is like
      1994 to 2013 June .Maybe 1/1/72 could be around now not sure as it is a weekly chart?

      RB

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  12. What about the possibilitie of both trading down into June turn date ?

    Yes they often trade opposite, but as an example, US$ and gold sometime go up/down in tandem, wouldnt be a possible scenario for metal/equities ? (atm gold down and future down too)

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  13. SPX lower gap is filled. Upper gap should fill next before the drop can resume.

    GDX gap filled.

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  14. Okay, this is weird. Both gold and equities went gap down hard at the open today. This potentially creates more risk for a bearish scenario for equities, since the expectations for the turn date (today) was for equities to rise in the morning and then reverse into a decline later on. The risk will be due to increased volatility since it can now bounce up or down 20-30 points in either direction and still not provide a clear reversal path intraday. Let's observe.

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  15. Suach a Crazy and Nonsense market, Open at (-1.2%) Red now we are almost Green!!!! 1.2% in less than 2 hours? taht means all the concerns are removed and investors rely on market. Such a Cheating.... even a Kid will laugh at this :)
    HM2535

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    1. gap filling and inverted H&S marked - target 1695

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    2. anon, new high? Don't be so sure yet. There is an intraday H&S top neckline that should provide significant resistance in the 1655-1660 (sloping with a slight upward bias). My thesis is it will hit near or at this neckline and fail for today's reversal turn date.

      This neckline is an upward extension of a trendline that begins from the Apr 11 intraday high. The last time it touched this resistance line was Apr 6 at just below 1650 and it promptly declined nearly 50 points in days.

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    3. typo ... "The last time it touched this resistance line was [JUNE 4] at just below 1650 ..."

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    4. obviously sideways moving market

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  16. just my 2 cents silver should be ready to up ..watch the weekly chart on slv if silver trades above 21.20 on the weekly ...will enter a long position that should last for 8 to 10 weeks...........gannman

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  17. bought the august 22 calls on $SLV for .64.........gannman please use stops this is not a recommendation to anyone out there but my personal trade ...GANNMAN

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    1. gannman, that's a very bold call and gutsy considering SLV is making a new low today. I know there are MANY FOLKS out there who are anticipating high teens for silver with an imminent breakdown. If those same folks are wrong then I would expect your forecast could work out in spades due to a massive short covering rally from the ensuing panic.

      I have no opinion on silver and only observe that it is much weaker than gold as per the charts.

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    2. 21.4 is sticking, and today is a turn date. I like it!

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    3. My short-term and Mid-term trends are both down for Silver...

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  18. cit june ....9 and 20
    cit july.....4 and 28
    july 28 sun squares saturn and mars opp pluto
    sun venus and mars ....negative energy to uranus pluto square expect large moves in markets ...mars enetering cancer a cardinal sign...cheers Gannman....

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  19. Is this retracement vibrating to "13"?

    I think we can be confident the rally top will be in around 23 August. That makes it 13 weeks from the 22 May high. the same as 2007 and half of 2000. Yesterday's high was 1642. 1+6+4+2=13.

    Gann's square of 9 indicates a squaring of price and time at 1508. But what if it is 1503? 1642 to 1503=139. 1+3+9=13

    The low might be 1503, but the close may be 1525 (which is my preferred price). 1+5+2+5=13.

    Very interesting stuff. Could also be meaningless.

    The market has now confirmed it is EXACTLY following the 2007 topping process. Barring any unforeseen issues the market should now drop into 20-22 June?

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    1. Great thoughts, thanks Chris!

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    2. I like it Chris - fits well with this (sorry if posted before) https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/31723500/%231%20T%20Chart%208%20May%202013.jpg

      Crisstoff

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    3. I like the 23rd Aug date for a top . Mars cycle from 10/4 /2011 low 689 CD's

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    4. Great - thanks Crisstoff & John!

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  20. Spiraldates is showing a high score for June 23.

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  21. Saw this link through Chartramblings...

    http://www.traderplanet.com/commentaries/view/164207-u-s-stocks-middle-section-forecasts/

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  22. The market trendsetters are the fund managers and they are liquidating their long positions whilst the commercials are exiting their shorts. Have a look at the latest COT data.

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  23. Platy I run counter to your gold call for a top 22/23.

    I sold ALL my gold positions last Wednesday when the Aussie gold index dropped under a two week consolidation for a small profit. Since then most of the major Aussie gold stocks have performed miserably with the leading gold miner making new 5 year lows.
    IMO it doesn't auger well for either gold or silver but we may get higher lows in US gold stocks on lower low in the metals.
    Only time will tell, but for the time being gold looks to breaking down from a daily wedge pattern.

    Cheers

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    1. Thanks BJ. Gold does look really weak, but has so far found support at 61.8% retracement. My bullish bias (through June 22) is based mostly on my bearish stance on equities and the dollar through June 22 but I don't feel that strongly about it. Seems worth a shot at these levels with a tight stop.

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    2. Yes, gold and miners are acting counter intuitive. USD has been declining sharply for the past week especially after failing to sustain another upleg after breaking through a key technical resistance level and has now lost all of its momentum from earlier this year. USD topped out May 22 along with US equities which coincided with a bottom in gold and miners two days earlier on May 20.

      In fact the USD DECLINE has actually ACCELERATED after the Jun 6 turn date, yet instead of gold rallying hard on such fundamentally positive news, the metal and miners actually dropped heavily for the three days afterwards and only on Wed did it somewhat bottom and stage a strong rally before another wave of afternoon selling muted out most of the daily gains. At this point GDX is close to completing an inverted HnS bottom assuming Wed low (or if tommorrow's low is above or only slightly lower) holds.

      The interesting aspect out of this unexpected action is to consider WHAT IF gold and miners merely consolidate from here up to Jun 21 (instead of a slight rally)? Is there a possibility that on Jun 24 that sector ends up staging a reversal blast off to the upside instead of the expected downside reversal had it rallied leading up to that date?

      What it does for the rest of this week and next especially if it coincides with significant weakness in US equities will be telling.

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    3. I agree with your assessment Awakening. Nothing to get excited about in the metals.

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  24. Dear Ms. Platy,

    I value and admire your excellent and unique work. AS you said ... it is just noise. You stand eponymous to declare the shape of things to come. Only for this you have to be respected. Please keep on and do not look back!

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  25. To my South African reader:

    Sorry I haven't gotten back to you yet on the JSE. What I can do is figure out the 72° and 36° harmonic points, but you will need some astrology software to be able to watch when there points are crossed. You should also check back on previous dates to see how well these points worked in the past. Would you like me to provide those points for you?

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  26. current.....T-square: Me-Ur-Pl (av. 3° 36')
    T-square: Ve-Ur-Pl (av. 0° 51') will clear out soon.. will go long if technicals confirm on 2 hr chart just my 2 cents Gannman

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    1. Exact T-square triggered by Mercury and Venus already took place on 12th. Isn't it so?

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  27. We have not had 3 consecutive down closes in DJIA for a long time and it now looks like today's close will break that run. The last time I believe you had a such a long uptrend without a pause was back in early 20th century.

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    1. October 18, 1935:

      http://paststat.com/blog/djia-breaks-3-day-losing-streak-breaking-after-a-long-time-next-what/

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  28. Hi platty, do you have Nikkei chart

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    1. No sorry I have never looked at Nikkei.

      As with anything, if there is enough interest I can try to take a look when I get some extra time.

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    2. Nikkei took a big tumble overnight -844 points (-6.35%)! http://e.nikkei.com/e/fr/marketlive.aspx

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  29. I was able to recover the lost SPX inversion post with lost comments here.

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  30. platy, Good morning, first i must thank you for running such an excellent informative, educational blog for FREE.
    some body wanted to read about NIKKEII
    THERE is an excellent post in
    modern vedic Astrology by christopher Kevill and date 26th may or 27th if you count on monday; hope they like it
    again, with many thanks have a great day and great Father's day
    vick

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  31. platy,

    Lunatic trader has a very good post on Nikkei also if somebody is interested. i only visit this blog and read about Nikkei and do not know more than that but thought it might interest somebody.
    again thanks

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  32. Hi Platy, DO you still belive that we will see another Rally before major turn to bear market? as you post in your post? but so far Bradley Cowan has been right on May21 ( the Top).
    Thanks for your perfect Blog. :) HM2535

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    1. Hi HM, yes I think once this correction is finished SPX should rally into August. And Cowan will still be right.

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    2. Thanks, so we will not pass the TOP of May.21 in your opinion. another Rally but lower high compare to May.21.... I am sofar really excited by his job in 2009 in his pentagonal book(It was kind of hard to be sure for me, but Now it is another proof to me...WOW)... by the way, Platy did you have heard any update or new book regarding what will happen from here? Thanks a lot. HM2535

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    3. I forgot to mention Cowan name in my post, I will aadd it here " . by the way, Platy did you have heard any update from Cowan or any new book from Him regarding what will happen from here?" HM2535

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    4. No I believe we will get a higher high in August.

      Cowan mentions the Aug Jup-Mars conjunction as being connected to the Beast cycle in the book. So a higher high in Aug would still be consistent with Cowan.

      People who purchase Cowan's software get updates from him. I don't have the software. Also I request that people who receive these updates should NOT post them here because it would be a clear agreement violation.

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  33. Rally should loose steam here.

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  34. Platy, I must commend you on a great site you have. I have mentioned your site many times on my forum.

    Fwiw, I do believe we are at a major Low here. For more info, please refer to:
    http://timeandcycles.blogspot.com/

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    1. Hi Raj, thanks a lot! I like your site too! :)

      I think it's possible we have a major low here. SPX is still within the trend channel it has held since November. Caution should be used. But I still think we have lower to go. Let's see if the channel breaks.

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    2. I think we made a low here. S&P 500 Cash Index actually had an outside day bar. I was expecting the low to be made tomorrow but the turn came one day earlier.

      The whole pattern from the May 22nd high looks like a NeoWave neutral triangle. We still need post-triangle completion confirmation and that may come in the next day or two.

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    3. Neowave triangle ... hugh that is chinese to me - any further explanation?

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    4. NeoWave is Glenn Neely's twist on Elliott Wave Theory. For a description of his neutral triangle see http://www.neowave.com/qow/qow-archive-8.asp .

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    5. Jay thanks for the interesting link. Something new to study, once time available.

      Back again to the topic: "post-triangle completion confirmation" - what is it in SnP terms ? Up small, big, down small big?

      My hint anyway: on Monday we have the biggest POMO day in June. 4.75 - 5.75 bn.
      So I expect the 100 mva in the 4h chart of the DOW (which is slightly sloping south) to be broken north - what so far did not work. But what could either start a bigger move north - or what might end up in an excellent bull trap.
      Tuesday and Wednesday FOMC meeting and such a huge POMO a day before likely also not a coincidence.
      Me thinks Asia and Europe might eventually grind lower again - and then from again oversold levels that POMO will start an impressive squeeze.
      BTW: these moves tend to weigh on gold - so possibly another smaller or bigger plunge in Gold ahead. Also Friday's HUI performance rather bearish in the face of stronger gold.

      That's what I expect - maybe you see something similar - just in other (post-triangle completion confirmation ) terms?

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  35. There were a lot of things to consider today from the price movements and this is what I found so far to be the most detailed analysis to a daily analysis I have done.

    http://tfaat.blogspot.ca/2013/06/13-jun-2013.html

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  36. Typical! I loaded up short yesterday too. In any event, I think I have found the cycle. On June 11 Neptune was 30 degrees from the intermediate low (EW2?)from 22 October 1999. The next 30 degrees comes in on Aug 19 from the high (EW3?) of 12/31/1999.

    So what is next? The price is still within the channel, albeit only just. Any ideas?

    thanks in advance.

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  37. not sure if anyone mentioned it but I see that Venus and Mars are separated by 72 degrees on the 36 degree inner pentagram. Venus 131 Mars 59. This might also be a stretch but Earth is at 262 or twice Venus, good harmonics for the bottom

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    1. Perhaps important. We shall see.

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  38. Ceres is also conjunct Venus in this Venus, Mars configuration.. Ceres is at 129 so only off by 2 degrees Venus and Mars are exact

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  39. Cowan mentions Venus, Mars, Ceres, [and Earth] synchronizing together.

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  40. I'm traveling again for the next 2 weeks and won't be around much to comment. Today was a DOW Ceres 36° cycle that could have given a reversal. Today was stronger than I expected. /es stalled at the top of the trend channel. Not sure where it's going next but conditions are currently overbought so I think down. GL!

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  41. SPX 1612 is the level to watch today - strong trendline support. A decisive break there should send stocks to new lows. If that holds it probably means the correction is done. Futures have twice hit the multi-year trendline shown in the appendix of the previous post and made a strong bounce (double bottom test). The bottom might well be in.

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    1. at the end of friday the down wave held 0.618 fibo retracement of the 2'nd up-wave from 1600's, thus meeting characteristics of 2'nd waves.
      On monday a 3'rd up wave might appear.
      the HFT's, being pumped by monday's QE (biggest in June), already are salivating for some shorts blood.

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  42. I'm looking at Jay's charts attached on this website but at lost how to interpret them. I see roughly where market would turn but there is no specific dates on it. how should one read these charts? or are they not meant to be taken as a precise predictions on market directions?

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    1. The charts are very rough guides. Have you searched the archives for my previous posts to learn more about the method?

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    2. Dates are at the top
      DJIA
      2013:
      - Peak 5/5/13 +/- 2 weeks
      - Trough 9/13/13 +/- 2 weeks

      Overall:
      - Trough 2/2/16

      The only thing I'm trying to wrap my arms around is how rough the guide is should we see Platy's forecast of a final high into August with Jay's method producing a 2013 high at 5/5/13. The timing of the in-sample has been immensely accurate and 5/22 still holds as the top.

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    3. The same question I exposed many days ago, as I wrote here, ANON.

      @apanalis

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  43. it all hinges on the FOMC, the economic data and earnings.
    I could be completely wrong but at this time there is really no reason for the Fed to stop QE, unless they see some danger to the economy.
    The unemployment rate, though down, is far from the target level and so is inflation.
    Until either one of those change tapering is only a debate and not an action about to happen.
    Of course, the Fed could change it's mind about the health of the economy and the need for QE. This could result in a new plan altogether
    There are signs of continuation in the market everywhere. Every chart I follow is on the verge of showing a strong signal.
    As of now only weak signals are present with the chance of heavy resistance also present.
    Next week is going to be a big one I think. The FOMC decision and statements will be the center of attention. Just how the market will react is a mystery but for now, signs are pointing up
    A break above 1675 is really needed for a bullish view and a move up to 1690/1720

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  44. Futures are in a triangle bounded by 1590 (fixed) and 1635 (falling). There is also very strong SPX channel support at 1615 (rising). The safe thing to do is wait to see which way it breaks. My bias is turning bullish.

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    1. Also we have Raj's bottom call from yesterday.

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    2. From: RajaCar
      To: TimeandCycles@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Tue, January 1, 2008 11:27:43 PM
      Subject: [TimeandCycles] 2008 Forecast

      The 2008 Forecast basis my main series of Cycles:

      1. February 08 will see a retest of the 10/11 Highs

      2. April 08 will be the Low of the Year, No Ifs and Butts

      3. Another higher Low is due 3 months Later by July 08

      4. Rocket Launch to new All Time Highs afterwards.

      5. 2008 will be yet another UP Year.

      Ian_G

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    3. Inversions are a huge problem with cycle studies. This is why it is so important to combine this type of analysis with other methods!

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  45. The dollar has a geocentric Ceres 36° cycle on Sunday (June 16). It is getting pretty oversold so we could be seeing at least a near term low here.

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    1. Wiht your permission, platy, about US Dollar (UUP)>http://forosdebolsa.com/foro/foros-de-bolsa/1108093/us-dollar-uup-.-no-comments/

      @apanalis

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  46. The latest COT data has the funds reducing their long positions by 71,381 and shorting an additional 13,508 contracts. Commercials increased their longs by 49,263 and their shorts by 20,046.

    These figures were current as from last Tuesday.

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  47. Nikkei natal May 17 1949 gives Helio Jupiter @ 21 Cap 47'28".

    Using this as the basis for Nikkei there is a Saturn 72° cycle on June 17.

    Nikkei is at 38.2% retracement, double bottom, and very oversold.

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  48. 6/19/13: S&P Geocentric Jupiter-Sun conjunction 36°

    Sun and jupiter in conjunction I know that means an outburst of energy - that is bullish on S&P, I guess ?

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  49. Hey Platy, I know there are two Earth-Mars dates that are coming up, July 1 and July 17. In general are these dates bullish, bearist or neutral? Once again, thanks for running this great blog!

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    1. Answer: no one really knows ahead of time. If prices rise into those dates, you assume it's bearish afterwards. If prices decline into those dates, you assume it's bullish afterwards. If prices rise into that date and continue rising afterwards, or decline into that date and continue falling, then maybe the market is searching for another cycle to make a turn.

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    2. I don't have the turn dates yet for July, sorry, very busy. Off the bat I don't see what you are referring to with the Earth-Mars dates. Can you be more specific? Which instrument - S&P, or gold, or ?? What is the aspect that Earth and Mars are making?

      As a general statement though, Mr. Beenz's answer is correct.

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  50. Heliocentric Mars and Jupiter were in conjunction at roughly 307 degrees on 6th Mar 2009 when the S&P 500 hit a major low. If you look at the heliocentric synodic Mars/Jupiter cycle, the next conjunction was 18th May 2011. S&P 500 topped on 2nd May 2011. The next conjunction of this synodic cycle is due 17th August this year.

    The other interesting observation is to run a 1x1 heliocentric Jupiter planetary speed line like Gann used to do from the 6th March 2009 low. To do this, use a scale of 5 S&P 500 points per 1 degree of Jupiter and increment the line's position each month by the change in Jupiter's longitude. On a monthly chart, you will find that the Jupiter line served as support at the last intermediate low in Oct 2011.

    Right now S&P 500 is following the heliocentric Venus 1x1 line from the Oct 2011 low using a scale of 0.5 S&P 500 points per degree of Venus. It traded below that line in Nov 2013 but was unable to close below it.

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    1. Yes Jay, the J-M cycle is one of the main reasons I am bullish through August. Aug 17 will complete Mars' path through all 5 points of the pentagram. Have you turned bullish with me?

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    2. I am still bearish and expect the market to top this year. The question is when will it top? The Mars/Jupiter cycle is only one cycle and the odd thing is that Cowan doesn't even analyze it in his books. He does analyze the Jupiter/Uranus, Jupiter/Saturn, and Saturn/Uranus synodic cycles as well as the Beast cycle. I don't think it would be to meaningful to draw any conclusions until all those cycles have been carefully analyzed.

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    5. Rotrot,

      Thanks for the charts, the second one isnt working for me - http://tinyurl.com/l58ul83

      I was wondering if you could post an update of your trend chart - sorry cant remember what you caled it, but was for longer trends.

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    6. Thanks RR - yes the J-M cycle is discussed in the book and connected to the Beast cycle. I have given this cycle special attention from the beginning of this blog.

      Also, the first Beast of Revelation rises up out of the sea. It really has me thinking with Neptune, Saturn, Jupiter and Mars all to be in water signs...

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    9. Rotrot, thanks for the comments. I also use NYSI and NASI - noted NYSI has not turned up since May highs.

      Your last SPX monthly chart link is not working, could you repost please.

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  51. Action is obviously very bullish. Triangle broke to the upside, and has been back-tested. 20 DMA is exceeded and now should provide support. My guess is for a scary back-test of the 20 DMA tomorrow with the FOMC, then continuation up.

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  52. I apologize, Platy. No need for you to apologize. I know you're busy. I should have been more clear in my post. There is the Earth-Mars 2,160 degree listed for July 1 and 17, depending on cycle of origin, p. 104. So I would think this is important because Mars is often a catalyst. The next day you have Geo Venus sq. Saturn and Sun opp. Pluto. So, these might be important dates.

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  53. I posted on my blog a few weeks ahead, calling for a 6/6 Low and 6/13 Low.

    here are a few additional reasons I had.

    There was also a Price and Time and a Beast cycle at the 6/6 Low:

    3/24/00H@1553 SPX, 3/6/09L+1553 = 6/6/13L

    Beast Numerology: 9/1/00H + 666 weeks = 6/6/13L (-1)

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      "we are at a major Low here"

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    2. Very interesting Raj, thanks!

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    3. Raj, your price and time projections are indeed intriguing and put forth a compelling argument for a major low. But the May 22 to Jun 6 decline only resulted in just a -5.2% correction which is on the abnormally low end of previous Beast cycles (off top of head I think lowest was -8% and most were -10%+).

      In fact, just your typical correction in any regular market would be -5% and even corrections in 2012 and 2011 were higher than this.

      Would that change your perspective of yet one additional larger corrective cycle in the near future (from possibly a higher high)? Or possibly another correction that somehow takes it below the 6/6/13 low?

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    4. A, If we take out the 6/6L@1598 SPX and 6/13L@1608 SPX that would be bearish.

      We will have a decline below these Lows at some point in the future, just not right now imho.

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    5. Indicators are still down from my analysis since the May 22 high.. It is good to use these indicators to confirm the cycles. I believe these cycles accurate enough miss the point on telling us if its a short term, medium term or long term cycle turns. I think this is just as important as the cycle themselves.

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    6. Markets replicate time moves. The 10/10/2002 low in S&P 500 was 768.63. 768.63 x 2 = 1537.26 days. Add that to the 3/6/2009 low date and you get 5/21/2013 which misses the 5/22 peak by a day!

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    7. The last minor low for S&P 500 on 6/6/13 was 1552.87 days from the last major low on 3/6/2009. 1552.87 was the 3/24/2000 high. If you instead use the 10/11/2007 high of 1576.09 and treating as days add it to 3/6/2009, you get 6/29/2009. The interesting thing about this projected date is that Earth will be in opposition to the pentagram vertex on that day (I use the NYSE 1792 birth date and apply a precession correction to the pentagram vertex and align the pentagram to the natal position of Saturn). The other interesting fact is that Earth was conjunct a pentagram vertex on 5/22/2013. So, Earth will have moved 36 degrees from 5/22. I searched the Gann Square of Nine for angles where the price will be conjunct one of the pentagram vertices. The best choice is 1520.69 which is roughly where the 200-day moving average sits. So, my call is for a low near 6/29 at approximately 1521.

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    8. If the 6/29 materializes around 1521, my projection is for an eventual peak around 8/15/13 when heliocentric Mars and Jupiter will be conjunct near a pentagram vertex. We will also have Earth square Venus, Saturn trine Mercury, Uranus square Mercury, Neptune trine Jupiter, Pluto opposition Mercury, Uranus square Pluto, Ceres square Venus, Chiron trine Mercury, and Chiron trine Saturn. In other words, lots of aspects.

      1585.92 and 1748.51 are two projected levels for 8/15/13.

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    9. Thanks a lot Jay - 6/29 is also an S&P Jupiter 36° cycle.

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    10. There was a typo - I meant to write 6/29/2013 - not 6/29/2009.

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    11. 1748.51 ... guess that was another typo?!

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    12. The 1748.51 was not a typo.

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    13. 1748.51 ... that means a much higher high - and that your composite chart for the DOW will have to be replaced by a new one?

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  54. May high is just a month over 49 months from 09 low. Which is the 7x7...

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  55. The idea is that we could have made a top in US indices in may, but is possible to see margin highs until agoust´13.

    Anyway, we are in a topping process, 13-years-cycle; 17-years-cycle; Jupiter-Mars Conj, David Star, adds more danger to markets.

    Have a look to the topping process from 1909-16-19 or nov´13 in the S&P in 1980, after we see a plunge roughly 35-46%.

    Must see the structure from 1906-23, 17 years sideways, 3rd impulse from 1835 top, prior to the rising process to 1929 crest.

    Or the structure from 1966-83, 2nd top from 1932, 17 years sideways.

    Always talking about the Dow Jones.

    But the current strcture of the Dow Jones is similar to the S&P from 19714 to 1980.

    After a rise about 130% we see a drop about -35%

    Now after a rise about 150%, could see a plunge about -40%

    And in the 1906-23 the retracement should be about 40-46% or more to see again nearly the 2009 bottom.

    To the case, I consider may13 decisive date, as I considered feb´07 or jul´07 a major top, we can see new highs, but the plunge is closer than the mass expect.

    In july or ago´13, may see new highs or not, may be margin ones, or the last rush, who knows?

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  56. Futures are down to the 50 DMA and 61.8% retracement (1612ish), and re-testing the triangle (again) that it broke out of. If it can't catch a bounce here it could be trouble.

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  57. We'll see what a re-visit to the 50 DMA brings us. Perhaps a rally, or perhaps Jay's guide is "rough," but 5/22 still holds. I'm sticking with Jay's methods until proven reason not to.

    ANON

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    1. Let's see how SPX reacts to hitting the Gann line support.

      Gold finally hit 38.2% retracement.

      We have a major turn date this weekend, which could manifest Friday or Monday.

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    2. The bounce from 1599.45 SPX this morning hit the 75ma exactly. I wonder why more people don't look at the 75ma as compared to the reg. 20, 50, and 200ma. This level must be broken for bears to continue its run. Jun 6 low sits on 1598.27 and break of this would take out a potential 1-2 buckle my shoe move to the upside.

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  58. Huge psychological shift in market psyche yesterday IMO.
    If (still an IF at this stage) the SPX breaks the 50dma and closes below this could be the trigger for a much larger sell-off.

    The last 6 months the buy on dip herd has been conditioned to expect higher highs. It now looks possible that we are going to reverse that trend and that could be the catalyst for a downside panic.

    Aussie golds got totally smashed today and XGD has plumed to new 5 year lows. Copper nearing new lows, AUD getting smashed, China PMI west in nearly 12 months, Europe continuing to slow and the US Fed still appear to be in total and complete denial. Or are they just trying to avert a market panic by talking things up as much as possible.

    The biggest concern for the metals. They failed to rally in the face of USD weakness the last month. Now they have to face the probability of a rising USD into July.

    $1100 gold could be on the horizon given the breakdown from the "symmetrical triangle".
    Silver looks far far worse!


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  59. "Gold finally hit 38.2% retracement.We have a major turn date this weekend, which could manifest Friday or Monday."

    Does it mean that we should be waiting for a bounce now Mrs. Platy or this is the major turn date hich arrived 1-2 days earlier?

    Thank you from a big admirer.

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    1. The dollar has a Uranus cycle, and Uranus is slow. Based on very limited experience these tend to give +/- 2 days accuracy. The other aspects in the post above tend to be +/- 1 day.

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  60. Here is a Gann observation: S&P 500 peaked on 5/22 at 1687.18 and made a low on 6/6 at 1598.23. Gann often used scaled 3-digit prices with the Gann Square of 9 chart. Scaling by 1/10 and rounding to an integer, the pivots are 169 and 160. 169 is on the 315 degree angle and 160 is on the 247.5 degree angle. So, price moved 315-247.5=67.5 degrees which is an exact multiple of 22.5 degrees. 22.5 degrees is 1/16th of a full 360 degree revolution and is considered a hard aspect.

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    1. Woow Jay, that was amazing ... Thanks, So what do you see next comes? start of Bearmarket is here or around Jul/Aug? Thanks.HM2535

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    2. So, far we have had only a minor correction. We still need a lot of downward price movement before we can confirm a top. The ingredients for that are all lining up (higher bond interest rates, higher dollar, weaker commodity prices, etc.)

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    3. Thanks Jay, Appreciate it. HM2535

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    4. S&P 500 peaked at 1576.09 on 11 Oct 2007 and bottomed at 666.79 on 6 Mar 2009. That was a movement of nearly 225 degrees on the Gann Square of Nine. A low of 666.17 would have made the move exactly 225 degrees.

      The 22 May 2013 peak has resulted in a move of 215 degrees from the Mar 2009 low. A price of 1704 corresponds to a 225 degree move and a price of 1776 corresponds to a 270 degree move.

      I don't have much experience with the Gann Square of Nine but I have been experimenting with it. It will be interesting to revisit these projections once we have a confirmed top in the S&P 500.

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  61. Not sure if anyone follows the bond market. The 30-year bond interest rate as measured by TYX bottomed in early May at 28.10 at a Gann angle of 270 degrees using the scale value of 281. I thought that in itself was interesting. If we hit 35.2 (scaled as 352), the interest rates would have moved one full turn aligning again with the Gann Cross. Also, note in the chart that 35.2 is very close to the 200-week exponential moving average which will likely offer solid resistance. So, I think we are are close to a pretty good pullback in interest rates.

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    1. Dear Jay, you say "So, I think we are are close to a pretty good pullback in interest rates.". Would it be good for mortgage REITs like NLY-AGNC etc? They have suffered a big drawdown these days.. A

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  62. Platy, the search functionality on this page is not working.

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    1. Thanks - I'm still out of town and will have to look into it next week.

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  63. With S&P 500 breaking below the 6th June low, I think we are headed to the 200-day moving average around 1515. The first downside target I have is 1567-1570 and the next target is 1510-1527.

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    1. You are likely correct but the big question is ... does it plummet from here to those levels or does it rally back to a certain level first and what (rally) number would that be?

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    2. Well done Jay - today we hit your first target!

      How high do you expect the correction to go?

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    3. See my post on 23rd about projecting time using the pentagram and price. 6/29 seems like the best bet for a low. 1520.69 projection mentioned in that post looks like a good possibility. The supports using only the Gann Square of Nine and the 5/22 high are 1567.18, 1547.18, 1527.18, and 1507.87.

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    4. A good guideline is the one month May 2012 correction measured from the double top. Price action is very similar to the present. Back in 2012 it formed the first top in Apr, declined to the 50-MA, rallied to a lower top on May 1 and then corrected hard breaking significantly past the 50-MA that resulted in an early Jun low.

      In 2012 it declined -8.5% from the double top, rallied slightly before declining -5.25% from that interim top, for a net decline of about -10% measured from the double top.

      The analogy this year would have Jun 19 as the official double top, since that occurred after rallying from the initial decline at the 50-MA. But this time could be slightly different and prices more severe within accelerated time frames since 2013 is the "crash" year and also bouncing off a triple top on the long term charts.

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  64. The US Dollar Index (DXY on BigCharts.com) peaked recently at 84.498 which is on the Gann Square of Nine at 354.3525 degrees. The index bottomed recently at 80.498 which is at a Gann angle of 309.3525 degrees. This translates to a move of 354.3525=309.3525 = 45 degrees which is significant!

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    1. significant for the short/ medium or long term in terms of dollar move? Thanks and appreciate your work

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    2. to add to it, are we expecting dollar down, markets down and gold more of down/sideways??

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    3. It is significant because that is a hard angle. The analysis is short-term oriented and suggests at least a move back to the recent high where there is resistance.

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  65. Actually now I am wondering if because Jun 22/23 falls on Sat/Sun (non-market trading days) and thus the Bradley/Beast turn cycle got accelerated by two days in advance to compensate for it. The alternative was for it to occur on Monday Jun 24 but that is obviously going to be something different.

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  66. S&P futures stopped at Gann line support. Very high volumes today in equities and metals.

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  68. Hi I'm looking at heliocentric mercury into sag on the 22nd for the metals to turn fits nice with the nodal hit

    Maybe looking at July 19 for a top (maybe a lower high) or the top ..I think the astro looks quite bullish all July lots of kites grand trines etc ..anyway there's a big a** thing with Jupiter on the 19th forget what it is but why I've got a top in there

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    1. This is what Cyclist expects - it is in line with yours I think:

      "I expected to see HUI 222 ,either 220 in April or recalibrated for June is 222.
      Gold has cruised through its support 1325 ,the third major support would be 1019 .That would be in line with the drop from 200 to 100 in 1974/August 76. This could very well happen between July17 to August 21 and it would be the buy of the century as was August 76.
      If the HUI would take out 222 in August 7 or August 21 then we going to see Depression with a big D. I think the miners will stay above 222 if crude will start to decline precipitously into the end of the summer. For most miners fuel is a great cost to them. If the cost of crude would go down to 75,most miners would save 10% operating cost. I think this factor is overlooked by most investors at the moment but not by management.
      Covered my shorts (HSD) as I expect one last run into July 17. After we could see a panic because of low volume i.e. no bids."

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  70. Markets are pretty oversold now so a bump to the loss of major support is probably in order. To me that looks like a re-test of the old triangle resistance, now at ES 1611, which is also 50 DMA, and probably close to 10 DMA when it gets there. It's possible to go as high as the SPX gap fill.

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  71. I concur with Jay, 1 stage of down mov. dma200> -10% typical pattern top process in Dow Jones and S&P.

    1st scenario Top process 1909-16-19>>plunge roughly 40-50%, even test the prior bottom, around 7.000 Dow Jones.

    After a likely little correction could see a new highs, as in 1919

    2nd scenario S&P 1980 (17-years Cycle), drop about 30-35% in comparision btw. rise process and fall process.

    In 1980, we had some little drops, before the main correction.

    These two scenarios fit with platy and Jay ´s projections, around may/ jul-ago´13 top.

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  73. SPX and futures regained important support levels Friday. Gold is still holding 38.2% retracement. Silver fell to prior (2009, 2010) resistance levels, now support. Equities and metals are oversold, dollar overbought. Chances look good for reversals next week as expected.

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  74. MERS Coronavirus deadlier than SARS.


    MERS == Seas (French)
    Corona == Sun

    Again eluding to the First Beast of Revelation, which rises up from the sea.

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  75. Interesting article about climate, comet ISON and famines.

    http://www.amanita.at/Interessantes/Artikel/detail.php?id=25841

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  76. Today is a geocentric Saturn 36° cycle for platinum.

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  78. Thanks,rotrot. So you mean the top is already made in may´13.

    Do you/ Cowan exposed any target or any time frme for the current correction?

    Very kind of you and glad to see ypu in plat´s web.

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  79. Jay, Platy and everybody..thanks for this site and your contribution. I have read lot of Jay's posts and love to hear from him abt gold.

    Gold is getting killed! Is this the end of bull-market? Jay I know you said that commodities cycles run for about 16 years and you dont think the bull market has ended.

    Having lost thousands of dollars, I am getting a jittery. Will gold ever go up?

    Thanks.

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    2. I am not Jay but if you want the basic skinny on gold then here it is. Near term it is almost inevitable that gold having broken a major support level at $1530 is destined to test $1180 which is a 61.8% Fib level (measured from 2008 low to 2011 peak). $1320 was a 50% retracement and provided a temporary rally point but it was never going to hold. The only unknown question back then was if gold was going to retest $1530 first before its next down leg and now in hindsight it looks unlikely.

      $1180 should be a stronger support level and expectations of a rally from there is high. But ultimately IMHO I think it will only be yet another consolidation range before another extended down leg to $1000 which was also the approx 2008 high.

      Despite all of this gloomy news the positive is that the cyclical bull market in gold "should" not be dead/over yet, because secular bull/bear markets should span over 20 years. Because what is occurring from autumn 2011 to say 2014(?) or possibly 2015(?) is likely to be an extended version of the 1975-1976 correction in the last major secular bull market in gold. Back then gold declined from ~$196 to ~$102 (-48%) and taking the 2011 all-time high of ~$1910 to a projected future low at ~$1000 is also about a -48% decline. And in hindsight you all know what happened from 1977 to Jan 1980 afterwards.

      History repeats in cycles and this time should be no different. The only challenge and difficulty is that present day gold bugs might have to wait yet another 5 years before hitting their pay day and also endure tremendous pain during the first half of that wait time!

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    3. Thanks Awakening, great analysis as always. I agree the bull is not dead.

      There are some crucial events coming up later this year for the metals, including Uranus and Neptune at 36°/72° harmonics. In fact, there are so many events coming up it makes it difficult to figure out which ones are most important. There is at least one major event every month. I will try to put a post together to highlight these events but I am behind after so much traveling so it may take a while.

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  80. That´s analysis about cycle of gold Iexplained time ago, but we are not sure if we are in 1975-76 period, -48% decline (from $25 70´s to $197 1975) 197 to $103 retracement 0,5 fib, fron the initial bottom.

    Or the Gold finally peaked in 2011 as in 1980. After it experimented a -48% decline from $873 to $453, after that a 0,76fib upwards but the cycle was ended yet.

    -48% is the magic rate again.

    To see about 1.800 level ( in a down-trend ) or to see new record highs

    We can not be sure, because Commodities in general run 10 years in an aptrend and 20 years in a down trend, more or less.

    The same for Oil and Crb index

    Rgards, Awakening, platy and all of you

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