Friday, May 31, 2013

Equities June Turn Dates

The general markets topped on May 22, one day after the predicted most likely date for Cowan's Beast cycle published 4 years ago in Pentagonal Time Cycle Theory, first mentioned on this blog more than a year ago here. The date is significant also because it fell 1 day after Uranus' return to its position when the market topped in 1929 before the crash, discussed here. It was also 2 days after the geocentric Uranus-Pluto square mentioned here. The reversal came exactly 131 trading days from the November 16, 2012 low as a perfect day-for-a-year fractal from the creation of the DOW 131 years ago, discussed here.

Because these heavily traded markets tend to produce well-behaved symmetrical inversion patterns, I believe the current correction will last a few weeks and will be followed by one more higher high, as discussed here.

The equities turn dates for June are given below. Towards the end of June we may see a low that could reverse the markets back up.


6/1/13: S&P Mars 72°

6/6/13: S&P Geocentric Saturn 18°
6/7/13: Geocentric Neptune Rx Trine Saturn, Venus

6/11/13: Nasdaq Mars 36°; Ceres-Venus Conj 36°
6/13/13: DOW Ceres 36°

6/19/13: S&P Geocentric Jupiter-Sun conjunction 36°
6/20/13: Summer Solstice
6/22/13: Nasdaq Ceres 36; Geocentric Ceres enters Leo
6/23/13: S&P Geocentric Jupiter 36°; Full Moon

6/26/13: Jupiter-Venus Opp; Geocentric Jupiter enters Cancer; Mercury Rx
6/26/13: Nasdaq Geocentric Sun 72° Trine Neptune, Saturn

6/29/13: S&P Jupiter 36°
6/30/13: Nasdaq Geocentric Ceres-Venus Conjunction 36°


6/23/2013: S&P Geocentric Jupiter 36° Cycle
6/29/2013: S&P Heliocentric Jupiter 36° Cycle

 

 6/5/2013 Addendum

It looks like SPX will re-test this major trendline before heading higher.

SPX




118 comments:

  1. Hi Ms.Platy,

    I have a VERY BIG favour to ask you.
    Please, please, please can you at the ens of each astrological line (i.e.
    '6/6/13: S&P Geocentric Saturn 18°
    6/7/13: Geocentric Neptune Rx Trine Saturn, Venus') post what kind of market bias might induce (i.e. "lower bias / higher bias").

    I really don't know that well astrology and when seeing those lines it's like reading chinese (and I don't know chinese). Lol! :)

    I know that you can't make recommendations but this slight interpretation might help me and other that don't know yet so much astrology!

    Thank you,
    Valerie

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    1. Hi Valerie, unfortunately this method does not predict in advance whether the turns will be highs or lows. So we have to watch how the market is moving as it approaches the turn dates. I put in bold what I think are the most important dates, since the farther planets are responsible for longer term cycles.

      So what I try to do is combine these dates with other methods. For example, I will be watching the Elliot Wave counts on the correction to see how far along we are. So if we get a clear 5 down near the 23rd or 29th that will be a clue to take profit and reverse.

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    2. Thank you Platy!
      Valerie

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  2. Thanks a milion Jay and platy....just my 2 cents below ...supermoons.....The moon will appear very "super" on these dates:
    June 23, 2013 == 30.0% more than average
    Aug 11, 2014 == 30.8%
    Sept 28, 2015 == 31.4%, a bit more super than yesterdays moon
    Nov 15, 2016 == 30.5%
    Dec 4, 2017 == 29.7%......Gannman

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    1. GM btw I remember reading a study associating supermoons with disasters, and we have an otherwise dangerous setup on the 23rd. I may need to do a post on this.

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    2. Richard Nolle - also about supermoon in his June forecast.

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  3. yes Platy every post out here helps someone out there ...what makes this a great site is its free flowing, giving and sharing of ideas , research and knowledge ...keep up the good work always......to one and all out there......Gannman

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  4. The proof is in the pudding :
    venus in opposition to uranus and venus squares pluto are important aspects especially if they are within a few days of each other .I have listed below the dates of such occurence in the past and the same to follow in the future between these two sets of planetary aspects ... go back in time and see how they played out in the market and also whats to follow hope this helps somebody out there ....
    VENUS OPP URANUS VENUS SQUARES PLUTO
    10/25/2007 11/6/2007
    8/23/2008 8/29/2008
    10/9/2009 10/15/2009
    8/7/2010 8/9/2010
    9/17/2011 9/18/2011
    11/1/2012 11/3/2012
    8/26/2013 8/24/2013
    10/11/2014 10/8/2014
    11/23/2015 11/20/2015
    9/8/2016 9/11/2016


    Let technicals confirm and use stops ...God Bless

    just my 2 cents ....Gannman

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    1. Great observation GM, Thank you!

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  5. Platy, The DJIA was born 1896-05-26. The date you mention is the birth date of the Dow and is not relevant to the DJIA. There was a predecessor average of 12 stocks that dates back to 1884 but I don't think that average is relevant either. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dow_Jones_Industrial_Average for details.

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    1. That could be. I was trying to find the earliest date I could so that the entire fractal would be covered. The date I used was for the parent company, but it does not look like it included stock trades until 1884. The hardest part of this job is finding the correct natal date. 1884 is 2 years off, which is close. 1896 is 14 years off, probably too much.

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  6. As an intellectual exercise I have attempted to apply the known Gann theories in trying to predict the actual date and price for the August high. It assumes I have interpreted and applied his theories accurately.

    It is generally accepted the high will be around 21 August with the H Jupiter trine Neptune and the G Jupiter square aspects. I think we can be more specific than that.

    The duration of the 1987 double top was determined by the Mars ingress. Mars H enters Gemini on 6/12/13 and then enters Cancer on 8/10/13. This equates to 59CD.

    The number of days taken the low on 10/4/2011 to the low on 11/25/2011 was 52. From the low on 10/4/2011 to 6/23/2013 is 628CD. Both 52 and 628 are on the same angle on the circle of 24. This proves that a change in trend is due.

    59 days from 6/23/2013 gives 8/22/2013, so we are definitely in the ball-park.

    Gann used numerology to determine a commodities' "vibration".

    Using Gann's square of 9 for 21 August gives a price of 1689. 1+6+8+9 = 24. Gann's circle is 24.

    On 18 August the sun will be at 25 Leo, 1 point or vibration off.

    2013-24 = 1989. From 8/18/1989 to 8/18/2013 = 8766 days. 8+7+6+6 = 27, or 3 points off. 8766 / 24 (circle of 24) = 365.25, or .01 day off the number of days in a year.

    18 August is an important date because:

    1 the sun will be at 144 degrees. Gann said the number 144 was his greatest discovery.
    2 144 is on the 0 degrees cardinal on the circle of 24. Important changes of trend occur at this junction
    3 G Saturn will be at 216 degrees. 216 is on the 0 degree line as well
    4 Ceres will be at 145 degrees. 145 is 1 number after the 0 degree line.

    So, 18 August might well be the top. But significant changes in trend need to tag Neptune (the S&P's ruling planet) for 3-5 days.

    The square of 9 for 21 August gave a price of 1689 (price meets time).

    The 2009 low (using 2009 June contract) was 662.75. 15.5 squares from this low gives 1701. 32squared = 1024 + 662.75 = 1686.75. The mean of these prices is 1693.

    Using the Octagon chart, Saturn will be at 216 degrees. 1689 is on the 225 degree line.

    Therefore expect the top to form from 18 August around 1690.

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    1. Dent

      http://pro.boomandbustinvestor.com/Dow_NEW1/EBNBP110/


      Wong

      http://tinyurl.com/d3ojwp3

      "...my view on the market is...will keep rising, until the mid of August 2013...then after an all-time-high is created in mid-August 2013...bad news will start to surface on the market...the bad news, however...will not affect the market much at first...only after 2014, the plunge will pick up speed...target of 4,000 on DJI...plunge shall end on December 31st 2016...DJI will rise again from 1st January 2017 onward..."


      Cowan

      http://www.cycle-trader.com/

      "Nearly two years before the recent stock market top Cowan published its expected date in Pentagonal Time Cycle Theory ...This cycle has special pentagonal significance only explained in Cowan's latest book. This cycle is due to return again in 2013 with even more profound consequences."

      Pentagonal Time Cycle Theory (page 127) - August 16, 2013 (Beast)


      Armstrong

      http://www.10sigma.com/files/Borrowing%20from%20the%20Rich%2006-30-2011.pdf

      2013.6 - August 7, 2013


      rotrot

      trading what is happening not what may or may not happen at some future date!

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    2. Excellent work Chris!!

      Thanks for that summary Rotrot!

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    3. Amanita newsletter May 21, 2013

      "For many years I have stressed the importance of the August 2013 timeline...
      ...from August 2013 on you should only trade the best financial instruments, especially futures & FOREX. Holders of retail instruments (warrants, mostly also ETFs/ETNs, certificates) could face a total loss..."

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    4. Pi*1000 days (Armstrong cycle) from the Indonesia earthquake/tsunami is August 3, 2013.

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  7. Platy,

    Here are the links to the updated charts for DJIA, Gold, and Silver. Note, the links have changed.

    DJIA - http://db.tt/si28zpJz
    London Gold - http://db.tt/z93PqICI
    London Silver - http://db.tt/ClNJONQ6

    Thanks,
    Jay

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    1. Hi Jay, I'm new to your charts. how should we interpret your charts? Is there a reason that they need to be updated periodically? thanks

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    2. Thanks Jay. Same here, new to your chart. Are gold and silver expected to have one more lower low before a bigger bounce? then collapse into mid 2014?

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    3. Anonymous, The analysis projects planetary cycles based on how planetary motion aligned in the past with returns on a price index. So, the charts have to be updated periodically to take into account recent history.

      Curiousmind, It is whatever the model forecasts. Review the chart and decide for yourself.

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  8. I have been reading many blogs and noticed that bears are even postponing thier tops and looking for higher prices... Just an observation.

    MP

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    1. Smart observation, MP

      Apanalis

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  9. Just another observation on my part RE gold and gold stocks and further validation of a bottom. Aussie gold stocks, despite gold being down on Friday1.7%, are absolutely ON FIRE!, many majors currently up in many cases over 10% and on volume. Expect GDX to rock 'n' roll when the US opens.

    Intermediate looking good for higher gold into August/Sep.

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  10. Major Bradley turn date 6/22.

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    1. Hi Platy, is that mentioned by Bradley? I noted the one for May in book.

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  11. I have been reading Cowan's book on Four-Dimensional Stock Market Structures and Cycles. I have a strong engineering background but still find his theory of rotating platonic solids hard to apply post 1994 which is roughly where is analysis stops given the volumes were published in 1993. I think the pinpointing of price and time will require application of the principles set forth in these volumes to figure out when a cube's face completed or is expected to complete. If anyone has been able to map out the cube, since the Jan 1994 peak in the DJIA, could you please post your analysis here for the benefit of other readers?

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    1. My thoughts on the structure of the 4-dimensional cube in the DJIA in progress since January 1994 can be found here.

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  12. Monday, June 3, 2013 close

    NYSI negative

    NASI positive

    BPCOMPQ negative

    rotrot

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  13. Hello Jay, Many Thanks for your valuable charts and sharing with us, could you please explain a bit more to make it clear , what is the the IN sample and Out of sample means, and what is the Top chart and lower chart in each graph. Thank you in advance.HM2535

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  14. "In sample" refers to points based on trading days in the past. "Out of sample" refers to points in the future, that is, these are the projections for the planetary cycle.

    The top chart and bottom chart are easily distinguished by the legend on the right and are averages of cycles for the different planet combinations.

    You can find more information about the method by searching for my posts by my name.

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  15. Jay, could we know which is your target for the Dow Jones, when it bottom around 2016? Thanks.

    Do you think, is possible to see new highs in summer time, jul´13-ago´13 before the severe decline, as platy suggest?

    Thanks

    Apanalis

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    1. This is a very rough timing model based on planetary positions. It does not forecast prices.

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    2. I Know that, Jay, but I asked if you have the amabilty to give us any count of the Dow Jones? Thanks a lot.

      Apanalis

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    3. None on the DJIA. But I use other kinds of analysis on the S&P where prices overshot the projected level and turning point date I had a bit but not by much. We will have to wait and see if the projection was correct.

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  16. 23.06.2013 magicall devil numbers 2x3 = 6 06 = 6 2+0+1+3 = 6

    -------,, 666 ,, ---------------


    Bilderberg 2013 | The Grove Hotel, Hertfordshire, June 6th-9th
    start 06.06.2013 ------------------> 6 6 6

    Bilderberg -fuc...gangsters
    Matt from Poland

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    1. That cannot be an accident -- thanks Matt!

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    2. Maybe there is even more behind that - let's see what happens on the 6th. What about a crash?

      Bo, some may know him from JS's site, had this to say recently:

      "Friday June 7, 2013looks to be the start of the Equities Market correction that will
      last weeks. The Equities will not CRASH like 2008, butcorrect. As the Equities
      correct so toowill gold and silver; Gold $1321 will hold, Silver $20.25 will not."

      Not sure still whether he is another Gann (20K for subscription) or a paid shill. Anyway that is what he predicts.

      As of now the charts look dead ugly. So either we get a correction soon - or IMHO a crash.

      Now connect the dots ..... of course 6 dots (;-))

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    3. Jay - I can only repeat: you are true treasury!
      Take care of yourself!!!

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  17. 1946

    http://www.mrci.com/special/ddji46.php

    http://tinyurl.com/l58ul83

    rotrot

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    1. hello http://www.mrci.com/special/ddji46.php

      could you plz move the blue line where it starts from aug 19 2012 "his 163". back to where the black line starts at the begining of chart oct 2 11 plz.

      or move the black line where it starts oct 2 11 to start at aug 19 2012.
      it appears by eye to line up by time.?
      thanks
      RB aka ricks bizz

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  18. Hi Jay,
    Greatly appreciate all your work. Thank You

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  19. Sun Spots
    http://solarcycles.net/2013/06/04/roundup-4/

    http://www.distressedvolatility.com/2013/06/the-sunspot-cycle-is-peaking.html
    Past video of Nenner also included...

    passing it along..

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  20. First of all, thanks to platy and all the other posters and contributors to this site. It certainly provides food for thought and more often than not good guidance for the likely future path of so many markets.

    I have been looking forward to the 21-23 May 2013 time period for a considerable length of time. I The 21st was the first trading day after the Uranus-Pluto square of course which has been mentioned. Cowans prediction for the 23rd of May has also been mentioned (though he notes some other possible dates too in his book). It was always destined to be one of the most interesting time points of 2013 and a very good candidate for a market top as we witnessed a phase in this bull market since November 2012 where the equity markets barely paused for breath in a relentless ascent.

    I will throw just one more thing into the mix, beyond what has been already well covered here, that is the Jupiter cycle though the Zodiac and its effect of the stock market, in this case the Dow Jones Industrial Average.

    A chart of the effects of the cycle illustrates the point nicely to show that the Dow has a tendency to peak when its in Taurus or Sagitarrius and bottoms out in Leo and Aquarius following on from the earlier peaks that were made. Its a pretty decent general rule:

    http://www.theidiotandthemoon.com/thejupitercycle.html

    Of course you will note that Jupiter left Tsurus and is in getting close to leaving Gemini now. Ray Merriman has noted that when Uranus and Pluto are involved, as they are during their 2012-15 square, the market tops out in 14-24 degrees of Gemini rather than during the Taurus phase. I looked back at the last major interaction between these two planets and the market topped out on 17th January 1966 with Jupiter at 22 degrees in Gemini. Funnily enough Jupiter was due to hit precisely that point and arrive at 22 degrees Gemini on 22 May 2013. That was the day the Dow rose to an all time high and promptly reversed sharply to close lower than the open. Coincidence? Possibly. However that time period was of great interest for other reasons too and the behaviour of equity markets at the time and since add some weight to the idea that it was the major high.

    To continue the theme, Jupiter today left the 14-24 degrees of Gemini zone coincident with major highs during important Uranus-Pluto aspect periods. Jupiter enters Cancer on June 26th. Jupiter goes into Leo at the end of July 2014 and will be there until August 2015.

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    1. Interesting article, thanks Zaheir!

      Jay has a chart showing essentially the same thing for Jupiter but I can't find it now.

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    2. Hi Platy, I am travelling but will post the chart you mention this weekend.

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  21. Play's turn dates above provides G Jupiter-Sun conjunct on 6/19/13.

    The last conjunct occurred on 5/14/12. The low on that date was 1300.

    Three squares above the low gives 1525. It is also exactly 15 squared. 15x15=225+1300=1525.

    The trine Neptune line sits at 1533, which is almost on the 1x1 angle from the 1685 high on 22 May to the date of the conjunct. Additionally, it would mark a double bottom from the low on 4/18/13. And to confirm, 1685 sits on 315 degrees on the Octagon. 1524 is 360 degrees from 1685.

    Turning to the date, the time from the low on 6/4/12 to the high on 10/5/12 was 87TD. 87x3=261= 6/17/13. Further, from the low on 11/16/12 to the high on 12/19/12 was 22TD. Using 22 on the square of 9 gives 142 = 6/13/13.

    I have no idea what this means but 1+5+2+5=.13. 2013-13=2000, the dotcom crash

    There is an outside chance we might see 1503. The square of 9 for 6/19 is 1503, which is also 2.5 squares above the high of the last conjunct.

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    1. Its also interesting Chris that the 19th of June date you highlight is the date on which the Federal Reserve ends its meeting and issues its statement. Potentially a big market moving event considering it will be especially eagerly awaited given recent hints from Bernanke about tapering off Fed bond purchases and limiting QE.

      http://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/fomccalendars.htm

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  22. cit for june .....june 9 and june 20.....Gannman

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  23. I've got that June 19 also as a potential top of sorts haven't quite worked it out yet ..grand trine (is a Friday) then there's the gann turn date on the 21st and a Bradley on the 22 all seem to fit together ?

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  24. Anyone else see that ascending "triangle formation" on GLD daily chart?

    Looks like gold breaks higher very soon
    http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=GLD&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p62180826059

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    1. dont agree. i see gold resisted right at the down trendline on daily chart. more likely to test another low.

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  25. Hi just got here via another site . Great stuff to which I can contribute more .
    I like the June 23rd date for S&P500 .
    From 3/6/2009 + 942 days = 10/4/11 low
    + 1256 = 8/14/12 high
    + 1570 = 6/23/13 ?
    942*1.666 = 1570
    1256* 1.333= 1570
    ( 3:4:5 triangle )

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  27. platy,
    can i ask one question, as june 6th is highlighted and seems markets are Negative at present do you believe there will be trend change on this thursday???? as i see just another excellent post showing that later part of this month may be more corrective
    thank you again, i realize you do not predict and are not an astrologer but with what is happening would atleast give your gut feeling that what might we expect for next 2 days.
    vick

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    1. Certainly, the 6th/7th could be a major CIT. I just added an addendum to show the price target I'm looking for, so let's see how this plays out.

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  28. Platy,

    Cowan's book on the pentagram focuses on timing at a fairly high level. However, using the techniques in his book on 4-dimensional structures is important to understand the precise phasing and timing of the various planetary cycles.

    Jay

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    1. Thanks Jay, I've started reading that a few times, but never find the time to get very far. It's very time consuming to keep up with what I'm doing here and also I am researching other things that I need to pay attention to right now. So please let us know what you're learning and if there is something important coming up that we should know about.

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  29. Wednesday, June 5, 2013 close

    NYSI negative

    NASI negative

    BPCOMPQ negative

    rotrot

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  30. Platy Hi this Gann CYCLES OF UNEQUAL LENGTH page 5 of http://tinyurl.com/lz33lka looks very similar to Solar Grand Minima as well as Solar Cycle Modulation that occur on a 179 yr cycle. http://users.beagle.com.au/geoffsharp/995-2985ssb.jpg

    below

    Do Neptune and Uranus Control Grand Minima & Solar Cycle Modulation?
    http://users.beagle.com.au/geoffsharp/NUfactor.htm

    RB

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    1. Thanks RB! Landscheidt's great work shows why anthropogenic global warming is a fraud.

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  31. Neptune turns Rx tomorrow - especially important to gold/silver/dollar.

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    1. Hi Platy - are you expecting the dollar to slide more?

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    2. It made a double bottom with the 3/25 flash crash. I think there's a good chance it has bottomed.

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    3. Thanks tons Platy ... this site and all contributors are absolutely fantastic. Kudos to you Platy for putting this together, and the effort it takes to run it. Blessings heading your way.

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  32. platy,
    thanks for all the hard work you do to keep up the excellent exchange which now a days hard to find it for FREE for sure.

    it seems that your turn date seems to move this exuberant markets which is on Free bernanke syrup on upper side is that the appropriate thinking> and do you think so correction is over and back to good times????
    please elaborate
    thanks,
    vick

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    1. Hi Vick,

      SPX bounced off the bottom of the trendline pretty close to my target so it is possible but I think we should get a little relief rally up to cover the gap it left at 1631 and then one more stab at the lows.

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    2. Or in other words, I think we are in a Wave 4 rally (which could go higher than 1631) with one more lower low ahead of us.

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  33. DJIA's low today at 14844.22 when converted to degrees was 45 degrees from heliocentric Saturn. We could see a bounce here before the downtrend resumes. At the same time NASDAQ price was 90 degrees from the Saturn/Pluto midpoint. I don't see any aspects for NASDAQ 100 (NDX) or for S&P 500 (SPX).

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    1. 1595.5 is 60° from geocentric Saturn and Venus, and 180° from Neptune (which are all trine today, with Neptune turning Rx). If we get a drop today it could find support there.

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  34. The very strong kijun-sen (ichimoku indicator) now sits at 1633 on a daily basis. It will provide good resistance.

    The weekly ichimoku had Wednesday's low bounce off the tankan-sen exactly at 1608. The weekly magnet kijun-sen is at 1530, which is close to our predicted low.

    Time is still on our side.

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  35. My wild guess is that cash S&P 500 index will put in a bottom on Tuesday 11th June when heliocentric Mars at 59.18 degrees opposes the NYSE pentagram vertex at 239.18 degrees. At the projected price of 1499.17, Mars will be conjunct the price when the price is converted to degrees. That is roughly where the 200-day average sits.

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    1. 1499.17 or 1599.17?
      Was that a typo error, Jay?

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    2. fwiw ... Jay mentioned the 200 dma - that should indeed be 1499. A bit extreme but with 3 more trading days until tuesday - why not.

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    3. That is why I said it is a wild guess. There is no strong basis to it but if this market is topping there is a good chance that the first drop will test the 200-day average and bounce before the average is taken out.

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    4. If that ever happened it would be a 1-2, 1-2-3 pattern on EW theory. You would get a rally after but I doubt there will be new highs if that 200 is reached.

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    5. Thank you Jay for your answer.
      I'm curious now if something will happen.
      if nothing happens what could be the explanation?
      My question revised is : what unexpected exceptions can occur and this thing doesn't appear? Or is it simply a wild guess without any argumentation , other than this Mars argument. Is there any historic case when that thing produced the same thing?

      Thank you.

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  36. Wow, thanks Jay. I am with you that this rally has no legs.
    In Dr Ruth Miller's book, "The Solar Guidance System", she postulates that the square of 9 can be used to look for times when prices align with the sun. She called this "solar vibration points". Dr Miller slightly altered these relationships in her book "The Ruth Miller Method of Trading Corn".

    The book (as are her others, which are worth reading) is available at:

    http://worldwide-invest.org/threads/8517-1989-Ruth-Miller-eBooks-Astrological-Trading?highlight=ruth+miller

    On 7/7 the sun is at 76 (days from 3/21). Extending the row which contains 76 gives the solar vibration level (svl) of the S&P of 1624. Applying her theories in her first book gives a svl of 1680, or a double top.

    If that were to happen our entire analysis is flawed.

    The svl for 6/19 is 1508 however, 360 degrees from the 1685 high is 1521.

    Does anyone else have any views?

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  37. SPX is getting near trend channel resistance & 20 DMA.

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    1. Hi Platy!
      What Jay said about S&p 500 at 1499 until or on Tuesday has really turned me on.
      I've saw at the Friday close that that resistence 1646 was not tresspassed.

      I've read what Awakening888 has wrote, below this comment.

      What is your opinion on Jay's affirmation?
      I know he has a great track record but this is too big to be taken as it is !!!

      thanks,

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    2. Hi Anon, I think we got our Wave 4 top today, or close to it. Wave 5 down next. Tuesday may indeed turn out to be the low but I agree with Awakening888 - I don't see it getting as far down as 1499 by Tuesday.

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    3. Thank you Platy.

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  38. A critical level is if SPX exceeds 1646 since if so then bears get killed as this implies a retest of the 52-week highs at least towards 1670. So that is why I believe this rally today stalls just below 1645 or SPY 164.8.

    I do not see how 1500 is possible by Tuesday. My modelling indicates most likely (best case bear) scenario is 1540 and that is not until late June. 1500 in days is essentially a stock market crash and inconsistent with the 2013-06-06 turn date that just occurred!

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    1. 2013-06-06 ... turndate - north or south - if I may ask?

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    2. Or in other words - when do you expect the next turn date - in case yesterday was a low?

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  39. Just as Matt pointed out above, yesterday was 6-6-2013 (6-6-6)!

    http://www.coindesk.com/apple-to-create-virtual-currency-imoney/

    Mark of the beast!

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    1. might be.
      take a look at a economic calendar to see what sh*t dumped china on saturday :)

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    2. 02:16 CN CNY Imports (YoY) (May) actual -0.3% previous 16.8%

      02:16 CN CNY Exports (YoY) (May) actual 1.0% previous 14.7%

      and there's more data on sunday
      there is a possibility do gap down hard on Monday!
      damn chinese!

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  41. stockyard here;

    is that not the definition of a crash?? an unforseen,unexpected,unavoidable, sudden stop
    to momentum???

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  42. Hi Jay, what happens if you use geocentric orientation for your composite cycle?

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    1. I use linear interpolation to calculate the composite index at degree intervals. Linear interpolation algorithm I use works only with monotonically increasing and monotonically decreasing functions. Geocentric motion does not meet that requirement. Hence, I can't use geocentric cycles to calculate the composite cycle.

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    2. Ok I see, thanks. In theory, shouldn't retrograde motion interfere with the results?

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    3. I am not sure I follow you. In a heliocentric model, there is no retrograde motion. If you are using a geocentric model to calculate a composite cycle, you will need to account for retrograde motion. Unfortunately, accounting for retrograde motion is complicated.

      I think the bigger issue with the composite cycle is that it is an equal-weighted model which is a gross simplification.

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    4. I was thinking that a more accurate assessment would include both geocentric and heliocentric longitudes. Gann only used geocentric. Anyway, just a thought.

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    5. For example, it looks like there is an inversion in you model for the 2nd half of 2010, when compared with actual results. Neptune, Uranus and Jupiter are all in retrograde for a good part of that time.

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  43. Hi Platy! I follow you à lot on Polys site. :-) Are you still with zig zag on the site "change in trend" earlier zig zag was sport on. Still the same? Have à nice weekend!/Moneyman

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    1. Hi Moneyman :) No I am not with them anymore.

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  44. Has anyone else noticed the likeness of the current market behaviour with 2007?

    The first top in 2007 was close to 7/19/07 at 1565. 12TD later the S&P dropped 92 points to a low of 1473. The S&P then rallied to 1510 in 2TD's or 61.8% and then found a low at 1374, some 20TD's from 7/19/07 (191 points)

    The 2013 high was on 5/22 at 1685, which is very close to 161.8% of the range of the 1565 to 1473 drop.

    The low on 6/6/13 was 1596, or 89 points, only 3 points off 2007. The latest rally fell a little shy of the 61.8% which is 1561. If the market turns at around 1561, it will also be 2TD.

    Assuming we adopt the balance of the 2007 topping process then we might expect the low to be 20TD from 5/22, which is 6/20. 191 points from 1685 is 1494. That however, might be a tall order!

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    1. Now that is something interesting!
      We should not trespass 1653 on Monday/Tuesday for that to happen.

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    2. Chris - excellent observation. And with that price target - you are again at what Jay mentioned a few days earlier. Amazing.

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    3. Furthermore - now look at what Gold did at the same time and in the aftermath!

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    4. I do not quite see it playing out this way since I think by Fri Jun 21 will actually be a TOP instead of a bottom. Wed Jun 19 is FOMC meeting minutes and I am projecting a decline from this coming mid-week up to Jun 18 or 19 and then the FED catalyst will rally the markets for 2.5 to 3 days, just like how I am assuming the markets will only rally for 2.5 to 3 days from last Thursday's bottom to early this week.

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  45. hi Platy,

    what position shoul prevail
    this one: "The equities turn dates for June are given below. Towards the end of June we may see a low that could reverse the markets back up."

    or the one from the spx chart from Addendum (05.June,13) ?

    they express opposite positions.

    Thank you,
    V.

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    1. Hi V, thanks for the question.

      I think we already essentially achieved the target shown in the addendum. It is a strong support level that has been tested, and will probably get tested again soon. It could hold or at least bounce on the next test but if it breaks through we have to look for the next level of support. I'm currently thinking June 22/23 will give the major low so let's see if it plays out that way, and then we can look at the support levels at that time. (It is hard to say this early because MA's etc. move with time.)

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    2. OK, Thank you , Ms. Platy, for your answer.
      I want you to know that you and this site is the main reference for me for financial astrology on the internet.
      There have been errors in the past forecasting the market but on average you have a good/very good track of the market.
      Also, this site have good professional commenters ! (Jay, Awakening888, Chris, and all the good people here).

      I don't use financial astrology as my main tool, but it is a check-up tool for me on daily/weekly trading.

      You are doing a good job, Ms. Platy.

      V.

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    3. Thanks V. I'll throw out 1555 as a possible target but let's revisit as we get closer.

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