Thursday, February 28, 2013

March 2-6: Gold/Silver Ceres Cycles and Neptune-Venus Conjunction

The February 28 Neptune-Venus conjunction took effect a day early, reversing gold and silver's uptrend to a downtrend until the next set of aspects next week.

March 2 is a gold geocentric Ceres 72° cycle. Notice that Ceres is square Mars, similar to one of the configurations near gold's double top in 2011. (See graph at bottom of page.)

3/2/2013: Geocentric Ceres at Gold's 72° Harmonic Square Mars
 March 6 is silver's geocentric Ceres 36° cycle.

3/6/2013: Geocentric Ceres at Silver's 36° Harmonic
Also on March 6, heliocentric Neptune is conjunct Venus near gold's 36°/silver's 72°.

3/6/2013: Heliocentric Neptune-Venus Conjunction and Gold Harmonics
Notice that Uranus and Jupiter are very close to gold's 72° harmonics. They will cross these harmonics soon. Note also that the Earth is nearly opposite the Neptune-Venus conjunction. (Exact opposition was February 21, an important low.) This is a mirror situation to gold's major high on August 23, 2011, where Neptune was conjunct Earth opposite Venus.

8/23/2011: Neptune-Earth Conjunction Opposite Venus and Gold Harmonics
The 8/23/2011 alignment is very special because it is an alignment of 4 planets (or objects), Neptune, Earth, Sun, and Venus. So the February 21 and March 6 alignments are closely tied to the August 21, 2011 alignment. Venus is the closest planet and gives the best timing, implying that the March 6 alignment will be a major reversal (a low).

There is another similar alignment coming up (a triple conjunction) in late March which should have a major impact as well on the metals.

Below is an updated chart showing planetary configurations affecting gold and the interesting symmetry taking place right now.

Gold Futures
The March 6 Neptune-Venus conjunction should also affect the S&P because Neptune is near the S&P's 72° harmonic.

Neptune-Venus Conjunction and S&P Harmonics

51 comments:

  1. Hello London next after japan to lower currency.

    http://www.kitco.com/KitcoNewsVideo/index.html?v=13-02-25_James_Rickards_1

    Hope this helps gold vs currencys

    Ricks Bizz

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    1. http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?play=1&video=3000152171

      Charles Nenner sterling's fortunes
      look at Nenners cycles under the charts

      Ricks Bizz

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  2. Can anyone recommend a good discussion board for trading real-time? Preferably one that is open to the kinds of things we discuss here. Thanks.

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    1. Hi Platy, try cobra's site
      http://bbs.cobrasmarketview.com/viewforum.php?f=2

      He starts a new page every trading day and there are good traders there including Karen (trader girl)

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    2. Thanks Mishka, I'll check it out!

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    3. Thanks Mishka, very kind of you... :))

      Platy, This week after looking at all my charts and astro's, I believe we could see some kind of low on the 5th or early 6th, and head up into your Mar 11th turn date...I had some sort of turn around the 12th or 13th, so possibly we turn down around that time frame....?? we'll have to look at the technicals at that time...but it's possible we are down into the 18-22nd time frame...

      Thanks,
      Karen


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    4. Thank you Karen! (I assume you are talking about equities.)

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    5. Yes, equities....I am not good at looking at metals... :))

      But there is a Merriman turn date for Currencies around the 4/5th....and I have counted 5 waves up for the Dollar...so if that is considered 5 waves for wave A, then it's quite possible we see a B wave pullback, then C wave up....

      Don't know how that would affect PM's but it doesn't look good for PM's if Dollar makes another wave up after a pullback??

      Hadik says that if Gold/Silver can reverse higher in the coming week, he thinks they could rally into March 18-22nd...?? He is not always right so fwiw....
      Karen

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    6. Great info, thanks again Karen :)

      If we get a low for metals on the 6th I'm expecting a rally into March 16, Uranus-Mars conjunction quintile Jupiter. Let's see how the next few days shake out.

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    7. Platy, check out fireangelmaverick.blogspot.com

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    8. Platy, stay way from fireangelmaverick, total control freak

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  3. Thanks for everything Platy. As for a real-time board, I have no knowledge.

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  4. Platy, I posted my updated analysis of the Dow Jones Industrial Average here.

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  5. Thanks Jay for the revised chart. Do you still have a double top in April?

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    1. Have you looked at the revised chart? There is no double top in the chart. That doesn't mean you won't get a double top. It is just that the analysis is not useful if you are looking for short-term or intermediate-term troughs and peaks.

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  6. Rut is a weak link...negative divergences on daily and weekly charts...SRTY under $25 is interesting...good luck with your trading...

    rotrot

    P.S. Any insight into how to activate a WordPress account for this blog?

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  7. Rotrot, I just created a new wordpress account and put my comments here and choose "Comment as:" option with wordpress account. Then published.

    Initially it gave me an wordpress error since it was not logged in. I just opened a new tab in my browser and logged into wordpress. then came back to platy's blog and posted this comment.

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  8. Does anyone see a very import bottom in gold on march 11 after wich we`ll see a very strong rally through march 27?

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    1. I'm thinking we should be bottoming now, and then rallying through March 16 (at least).

      I have a major turn date for gold March 28/29.

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    2. Hi Viking, your scenario is of course possible. What are you seeing that makes you think this?

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    3. Gold does look to be bear flagging.

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  9. There is a Bradley turn date today.. FWiW. I don't follow it at all.

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  10. Hi Platy,

    Did you see this video explaining a 17.6 year cycle?
    http://www.investorschronicle.co.uk/2013/03/04/comment/the-trader/video-stocks-next-mega-bull-market-Egf2ZdBaH06W71SKoPsHTN/article.html

    I think it comes very close to the 17 year cycle from Uranus 72 degree per Cowan..

    Danny

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    1. Good vid thanks Danny!

      He also talks about the 2.2 year cycle - the Jupiter-Mars synodic cycle is 2.24 years.

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    2. Wow... 3 years and this guy is already writing a book. LOL. I guess some people just learn real fast.

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    3. 3 years is a long time those days. What to say about Zaky? This guy made a few good calls on AAPL and found himself running a hedge fund soon.., with predictable results of course: http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2013/03/04/apple-zaky-bullish-cross/

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  11. Hi Platy, on the Watchlist you have the same aspects on March 11 as on March 18. Does the aspect for the Nasdaq occur on the 11th or the 18, or was this just an error. Thanks for all your posts!

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  12. Looks like we are headed up into the March 12th turn date...wonder if that will yield a size-able pullback or not??

    Merriman has a turn on the 12th, says it may affect currencies and treasuries the most...but if it affects treasuries...I would think that it would affect the market in some way...

    We could possibly finally see a pullback in the dollar...good for PM's..?? Your thoughts Platy??
    -Karen

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    1. Thanks Karen,

      There's a VIX gap that I think will fill before the markets continue higher. So I'm thinking the 11th might be a low.

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    2. I agree...low on the 11th, then head up into the 12th...I also have a cycle turn on the 12/13th...we'll see if it yields any kind of turn...??
      Thanks, Karen

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    3. Ok great. Maybe a bit of volatility ahead then.

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  13. My updated charts for London Gold can be found here. You will notice that the Mars/Ceres/Jupiter cycle which is what I had posted back in December looks quite different from the Mars/Ceres/Jupiter/Saturn cycle. It is unfortunate that the method doesn't provide a clear cut direction for gold. The Saturn projection may be suspect since we have data only for approximately 44 years which encompasses about 1.5 Saturn cycles.

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    1. Jay, thank you for your charts. Got a question on them. Do they correlate in any way to price or do they just identify potential turning dated and direction. Example, if gold is at a particular price and it then declines in correlation with your charts can we conclude then that gold might reverse back up to its initial price if your charts show a reversal to the level they were at prior previously? Thanks.

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    2. Jay have you done a DOW chart for all planets excluding Uranus?

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    3. Good question, Platy. You can find a comparison of the cycles with and without Uranus here.. I do think the market will peak soon and I expect that it will get hammered. However, I don't expect it to be as bad as the last Uranus cycle.

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    4. Very interesting. Thanks again Jay!

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    5. Platy, I used the annual closing prices for S&P from Global Financial Data beginning 1800. They use an analytical model to calculate S&P prices in the past based on prices of stocks that existed in the distant past. I don't know how valid that model is given that the S&P 500 index wasn't created until 1957 but academic researchers the world over rely on data provided by Global Financial Data for historical analysis. I did this analysis to see if the projections are consistent with the analysis of the Dow Jones Industrial Average. You benefit from having 2 full Uranus cycles. You also get a full Neptune cycle but I have chosen to omit Neptune for fear that using a single cycle may severely bias the analysis.

      You can find the full cycle beginning 1800 here and the zoomed in view here. You will see in the zoomed view, that the projections are more or less consistent with the Dow analysis at least with regard to turning points in the future. That leads some weight that Uranus is important and we can expect a severe fall beginning shortly. Also note the roughly even spacing between the 2 historical major troughs and the projected major trough in 2016 in the full view. Whether we will drop below the 2009 low will depend on the strength of the underlying trend component. We of course don't know what that underlying trend component looks like because the seasonal analysis strips the trend.

      Jupiter is often thought to exaggerate the prevalent trend. However, you can see from solid line in the charts that inclusion of Jupiter actually dampens the cyclical component. This point though should be taken with a grain of salt since I am interpolating annual prices and it is questionable whether movements of Jupiter can be used to interpolate prices given that Jupiter moves roughly 30 degrees each year.


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    6. Great analysis Jay, thanks!

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    7. Great charts - thanks Jay. Just wondering how when looking at your long term chart from 1800 it shows a peak in 2000 and dropping to 2009, which completely misses the rise from 03 to 07. Just trying to get a better understanding :)

      Thanks again, Chris

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    8. The chart only shows the extracted cyclical components combined as a composite. If you want to compare to prices you will need to add a long-term trend component. You can use a long-term average or a regression line to model trend but they are just approximations.

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    9. Platy, Merriman report this week says the following, “I just finished a study for the MMTA on the 4-year stock market cycle. Only three (of 30) four-year cycles have topped out after the 49th month since the study began in 1893. March 2013 is the 48th month of the current 4-year cycle. This suggests the high could unfold anytime by the end of April, followed by a minimum 20% decline (87% probability that the decline is at least 20% from the crest to the trough). There have been no instances of a first 4-year cycle phase within the greater 18-year cycle declining less than 20% (6 cases). The range of declines has been 21-51%. This is the first 4-year cycle phase of the greater 18-year cycle, off the March 2009 low. The decline can last at least two months once it begins (97% probability). Usually it is more like 12-18 months (83% probability) at the end of the first phase.”.

      This aligns with my projection for a DJIA top in April. I have analyzed the S&P 500 based on some geometrical relationships and think there is a high probability that the index will peak in early April probably close to the tax deadline between 1600-1625.

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    10. Thanks Jay!

      Cowan gives several possible dates for the Beast cycle, and the first of them is close to your date.

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