Monday, December 31, 2012

S&P: January 1 Mars 36° Cycle

As suggested in this post, equities have turned back up due to the December 28 S&P Ceres 36° cycle. However, the uptrend will probably not last long because there is a geocentric Mars 36° cycle on January 1 (markets closed that day) that is likely to reverse the markets back down either today or Wednesday.

1/1/2013: S&P Geocentric Mars 36° Cycle

34 comments:

  1. stockyard here; are you expecting the reversal to continue toward the new moon date 1-11??
    I have a couple indicators that is a trend change day and I read about your poster with the chain method expecting double bottom that time... so whatchathink or see???thanks

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    1. I'll have to watch to see how it plays out. If we get our expected reversal today/Wednesday, then Jan 9 looks more likely to me for a low than Jan 11 but let's see what happens. Maybe it will double bottom?

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  2. Hi Platy

    Thanks for the updates.

    Any chance you can post your trades here for all to see?

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  3. My EW count right now stands at an AB with C wave down to come therefore it would meet your criteria of a double bottom within the timeline. C waves are usually impulsive and should be a fast moving in time as-well. My observation is if it would reach all the way to the Nov 19 bottom or Nov 28 Low.

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  4. Happy new year Platy !

    Do you think the mars 36 on the 1st is stronger than Ceres 36 on the third ?

    Michael

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    1. Happy New Year Michael!

      The event on the 3rd is a Ceres-Venus opposition. I really haven't studies these that closely so I'm not sure which is stronger. I'm guessing Mars just because it's been so reliable.

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  5. happy new Platy...stockyard here;
    just a curious question...can you /have you look back at the past and see where these planet/star formations previously occurred?? some people use correlation charts and I wondered could if you knew what year they happened last??? thanks

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    1. Happy New Year Stockyard!

      Yes Mars cycles are pretty accurate, but not a guarantee. Please see:
      http://planetforecaster.blogspot.com/2012/01/geocentric-harmonics.html
      http://planetforecaster.blogspot.com/2012/11/1115-s-mars-72-cycle.html

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  6. Hi Platy,
    Wish you and all the fine folks here a Happy, Healthy, Wealthy and GOLDEN new year.

    Do you still see the markets going down till jan 11? or we go up till 11th and move down till 21-23?

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    1. Thanks for the nice wishes! :)

      What a lot of whipsawing! It's really hard to make a forecast with this action, so we have to take it one day at a time. Today should be a reversal down, and we have another turn date tomorrow. Maybe gap fill and then back up?

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  7. Based on the Wave analysis the uptrend is not over.. and the turn date of Jan 10 by one of your anonymous member might be looking at a top rather than a double bottom unless we get a flash crash of some sort. There are more than a few divergences between indicators and prices and this is bearish in my view.

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  8. Thanks platy, great! I We could see the top of the rebound from nov12 of this mini-cycle from march09 from 1st-to 9th January13. The industrials is forming a Head and sholulders pattern as in 2007.

    Antonio Pérez Algás- Apanalis

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    1. Hi Apanalis, as you know I am bullish into Spring. :)

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  9. Dearest Platy,
    I notice that a "Karen" is a follows this site. Is that the same Karen that posted cit dates on Anthony's site? She was very accurate, as were you with the cit dates on a daily basis for day traders. I would love to see her updates.

    Do you think that we go down to fill the gap over night,(Wednesday) and then continue up until Friday, January 4th?

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    1. I don't know if she's the same Karen. Maybe if she's reading she can answer?

      I'm not sure about equities right now. We're not at a place that makes it easy for me to give direction especially with these huge swings, sorry. A nice gap fill & reverse would make things clearer but it's probably not going to be that easy.

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  10. Platy,
    Thanks for your blog. Is it possible to pinpoint major turning point dates or major Change of Trend dates?

    I have noticed that there are too many turn dates in january and i think Jan 2013 it can be quite choppy. is this correct?
    For us to understand, is there a price action roadmap for the general markets during Jan or any other months available along with turn dates?

    Nasdaq turn dates or sp 500 turn dates get a precedence?

    Thanks.

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    1. We have 2 major turn windows close together, which usually implies a double bottom or double top. Sometimes I can narrow down the turn window a little. I don't usually do roadmaps. Both Nasdaq and S&P turn dates are important as they tend to trend together.

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  11. Platy,

    I asked which turn dates take precedence b/c nasdaq and sp500 dates differ by 1 or 2 days.

    Which turn dates are the major windows?
    i am new to your blog. so i cannot understand by marks/venus data etc., do you have a link where i can start reading about these?

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    1. The Nasdaq dates are specific to the Nasdaq and the S&P dates are specific to the S&P.

      Please see the previous post for the major turn windows of July.

      I learned this method from Brad Cowan's book "Pentagonal Time Cycle Theory".

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  12. Hi, platy, : What is the meaning of the DJIA Jupiter-Saturnus-Uranus Composite Cycle? Is a short of scenario for the Dow Jones. It´s is the first time a read about it in your site. Is that the main reason that you are bullish until spring 2013? Thanks a lot for your generosity.

    Apanalis

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    1. Please read the previous thread, it explains all I know about it. There are many reasons why I am bullish into spring, including this.

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    2. That´s right, may be the 13-year Cycle is around, and you see a top.

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  13. There are strong sentiments that this move higher will not last for too long. first off, the VIX has moved so far down in two days than in any point in its history EVER. The traders using Trin Sentiments are at an all time High which means we have hit overbought. You can read about them here.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-02/russell-closes-all-time-high-vix-has-biggest-two-day-drop-ever

    There are a lot of disconnect and this just seems to be asking for a free-fall to happen. A weekly and daily divergence on the Stochastics is by far the most bearish indicator I have seen yet.

    The thread about Jupiter Saturn Uranus as discussed cannot be accurately predicted due to slow moving planets (which coincides with our inability to tell which is top and which is bottom). So based on my Daily charts with over the top overbought conditions, we can say that a turn is within days and a reset of the indicators is needed to even consider a move higher. An impulsive move down will not be a very good sign for bulls.

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    1. Thanks for this MP. Could a gap fill be enough to re-set sentiment, or you think we really need lower lows?

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    2. I base my analysis mostly on Slow Stochastics. When viewed in different time frames one can see where it might look to turn. Im actually using this now to try to match with your turn dates. A gap fill would be enough to reset sentiments the key I believe would be the lows of Nov. 16 2012. Once we pass that we are sure that a trend change has occurred in a substantial way.

      My Daily Stochastics tells me that we are far from overbought and only at 52.70 on the SPX. But all time frames affect each other and looking at the 60min Stoch. you will see that its overbought. For the SPX prices to keep moving higher the 60min need to come back down to oversold condition to reset (where prices will be we will have to see). another would be for 60min to stay overbought for long period of time or a divergence to show itself for us to see a move starting downward.

      So far we have that divergence on the 60min Slow Stochastics and we can expect a few minor moves higher to finish off a complete 5 waves then a turn down. Once that Stoch. starts to move down it will affect the daily stoch. and it must cross downwards or else the 60min was not strong enough to manipulate it.

      I have one simple way to explain this method:

      Imagine a nail on a piece of wood as your daily and your 60min and other low time frames as your hammer and arm. The closer it is to the nail the harder it is to hammer down. So a reset to the top is needed to have that maximum affect to the downside (same for upside or long position). If your more of a longer term trader you would use your weekly as your main trend and use the daily to see how the weekly might be affected.

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    3. Thanks a lot MP. Maybe we get a slow gap fill that completes on the 9th and we're back on track.

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  14. http://www.businessinsider.com/solar-eruption-video-2013-1

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    1. So that's probably the cause of that huge run up in stocks. Wow.

      Good thing that wasn't Earth-facing!

      I wonder what month the solar cycle is expected to peak.

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  15. Platy,
    in the following link,
    http://time-price-research-astrofin.blogspot.com/2012/11/bradley-index-2013.html

    some turn dates are specified as follows:
    2012-12-31 (Mon) = @ 0
    2013-01-03 (Thu) = High
    2013-01-08 (Tue) = @ 0
    2013-01-14 (Mon) = Low

    What is the meaning of @ 0 ?
    Thanks.

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  16. Platy,

    just like sp500, and nasdaq are there major turn windows for gold?

    thanks.

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    1. Yes, please see this post:
      http://planetforecaster.blogspot.com/2012/12/major-january-turn-dates.html

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